Museum Research: Big Data Meets Thick Data, with Elena Kazlas and Adaheid Mestad [PODCAST]

Cultural projects should be data-driven — but which *kind* of data?

What’s the difference between the “big data” we all know — and “thick data”? Which is more important? (Hint: trick question.) What does cell phone data have to do with sculpture gardens? What’s a “two-hour ring”? What if we just recorded visitors narrating their entire experience — out loud?

Elena Kazlas (Founder, Elevativ) and Adaheid Mestad (Design Anthropologist, HGA) join Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Museum Research: Big Data Meets Thick Data”.

Along the way: drawing polygons, the odd truth of Connecticut art museums, and the “streakers, strollers, scholars” model. 

How to Listen:

Apple Podcasts
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/museum-research-big-data-meets-thick-data-with-elena/id1674901311?i=1000638298876

Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3F9zyDefd08Fguos1i4bpM?si=f50be6b7e44744a7

Everywhere
https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/

Guest Bios:

Elena Kazlas is the Founder & Creator of Elevativ, LLC. Elena has over 25 years’ of international experience in the successful development of non-profit and for-profit projects.She has extensive experience in working with clients as part of iterative planning processes to yield optimal development strategies for socially impactful projects, such as museums, with a special expertise in understanding their market and economic potential. Elena leads Elevativ with a left-brain/right-brain approach to project planning, balancing both quantitative and qualitative elements as they relate to a project’s potential success. Elena is a thought leader and expert in future planning for cultural projects.

Adaheid Mestad, M.A., is a Design Anthropologist currently working at HGA. Ada has over 15 years of experience utilizing social science approaches to translate human experience and sociocultural practices within the built environment. Ada’s philosophy is to engage and design with people, as the experts, to understand social constructs, values, and perspectives throughout a transparent and iterative process. Her ethnographic research informs and evaluates design that strengthens identity, representation, relationships, and sociocultural systems. Ada has worked with innovators, nationally and internationally, to transform experiences and social impact within Healthcare, Workplace strategy, Higher Education, Urban Planning, Government, and Cultural Institutions.

Show Links:

Elena’s Email: elena@elevativ.co
Elena’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-kazlas/
Elena’s Website: https://elevativ.co/
Placer.ai: https://www.placer.ai/ (mention Elena Kazlas from Elevativ)

Ada’s Email: AMestad@hga.com
Ada’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adaheidmestad/
Ada’s Website: https://hga.com/people/adaheid-mestad/
The American Anthropological Association: https://americananthro.org/
EPIC (Ethnography Association): https://www.epicpeople.org/
Thick Data: The term has been popularized by the anthropologist Tricia Wang and built on American Anthropologist Clifford Geertz’s “thick description”: https://medium.com/ethnography-matters/why-big-data-needs-thick-data-b4b3e75e3d7

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